Comments on: What's Wrong With This Picture? http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/09/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/ Technology is neither the problem nor the solution. Sun, 05 Feb 2012 23:12:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kim Clevinger http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/09/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1049 Kim Clevinger Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:32:38 +0000 http://durandus.com/phaedrus/?p=277#comment-1049 O.K. I agree with Carla on this one. I have not been sure how to answer this question. I do understand now that Dr. Lowell has clarified it more. O.K. I agree with Carla on this one. I have not been sure how to answer this question. I do understand now that Dr. Lowell has clarified it more.

]]> By: lowell http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/09/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1048 lowell Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:45:45 +0000 http://durandus.com/phaedrus/?p=277#comment-1048 yes. see my post for today on Exotic Tools: Second Life yes. see my post for today on Exotic Tools: Second Life

]]> By: Amy Howard http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/09/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1047 Amy Howard Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:32:26 +0000 http://durandus.com/phaedrus/?p=277#comment-1047 Are you saying SL is the platform and the mistakes are factors brought into the community? Are you saying SL is the platform and the mistakes are factors brought into the community?

]]> By: lowell http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/09/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1046 lowell Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:48:41 +0000 http://durandus.com/phaedrus/?p=277#comment-1046 This has drifted away from the basics. Beyond the corporate firewall problem (which is a company policy and nothing to do with SL), there are some clues that this design is missing a basic factor: What's an appropriate use for the platform? The issues surrounding number of people in a region at a time, and the tight scheduling indicate that the issue is the kind of activity planned was not actually taking advantage of the platform. This is a common problem. This has drifted away from the basics.

Beyond the corporate firewall problem (which is a company policy and nothing to do with SL), there are some clues that this design is missing a basic factor: What’s an appropriate use for the platform?

The issues surrounding number of people in a region at a time, and the tight scheduling indicate that the issue is the kind of activity planned was not actually taking advantage of the platform. This is a common problem.

]]> By: Amy Howard http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/09/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1045 Amy Howard Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:16:04 +0000 http://durandus.com/phaedrus/?p=277#comment-1045 It sounds like SL is working on a great concept. A place where professionals can log on and participate in conferences or give conferences to students. An online community to build and construct. When new land or new IP addresses are added it caused the cooperate computers to block the new addresses until they were unblocked. Firewalls are made to protect our computers and even in our school we run into the same problems. There is a site that is educational but firewalls prohibit access. Other problems are limited seating, lack of agendas to review, and time that it takes up. All these seem to be problems that needs to be addressed in this community. These same problems can occur in traditional trainings. Agendas are not given or unclear, it takes an hour to drive to a conference hall for a two hour meeting, and there are times that there is limited seating. SL should elevate these traditional problems to add appeal to the program. It sounds like SL is working on a great concept. A place where professionals can log on and participate in conferences or give conferences to students. An online community to build and construct. When new land or new IP addresses are added it caused the cooperate computers to block the new addresses until they were unblocked. Firewalls are made to protect our computers and even in our school we run into the same problems. There is a site that is educational but firewalls prohibit access. Other problems are limited seating, lack of agendas to review, and time that it takes up. All these seem to be problems that needs to be addressed in this community. These same problems can occur in traditional trainings. Agendas are not given or unclear, it takes an hour to drive to a conference hall for a two hour meeting, and there are times that there is limited seating. SL should elevate these traditional problems to add appeal to the program.

]]> By: Diana Jackson http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/09/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1044 Diana Jackson Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:06:30 +0000 http://durandus.com/phaedrus/?p=277#comment-1044 Number one problem= SL should have their P's and Q's in order. They seem much unorganized with materials/ information. There management team does not seem very well equipped with extensive training and there should always be enough seating for your business. If you accept customers...make sure there's room. I am not familiar with SL; however, it seems similar to Taking it Global. How could one use this resource effectively if the glitches are not removed first? Number one problem= SL should have their P’s and Q’s in order. They seem much unorganized with materials/ information. There management team does not seem very well equipped with extensive training and there should always be enough seating for your business. If you accept customers…make sure there’s room. I am not familiar with SL; however, it seems similar to Taking it Global. How could one use this resource effectively if the glitches are not removed first?

]]> By: Elizabeth Freeman http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/09/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1043 Elizabeth Freeman Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:22:16 +0000 http://durandus.com/phaedrus/?p=277#comment-1043 It seems that Second Life is offering things that cannot deliver. They are claiming to be able to offer spots that can hold virtual meetings, classes, and provide training in their virtual world, but it looks as if they do not have all of their bugs worked out. Not only are their still issues, but it looks as if there is no immediate plan of resolution. People have busy schedules and if they make time out of their day to attend an online conference or meeting, then they expect it to work. It should not be more a hassel and less productive than the more traditional methods. I would much rather attend a conference that is a few hours away from home then to have the frustration of SL not working. Many servers in schools or business have proxy servers and the issue with having to continuously update IP addresses to access SL would be aggravating and almost impossible for an online community that is growing at such a rapid pace. It seems that Second Life is offering things that cannot deliver. They are claiming to be able to offer spots that can hold virtual meetings, classes, and provide training in their virtual world, but it looks as if they do not have all of their bugs worked out. Not only are their still issues, but it looks as if there is no immediate plan of resolution.
People have busy schedules and if they make time out of their day to attend an online conference or meeting, then they expect it to work. It should not be more a hassel and less productive than the more traditional methods. I would much rather attend a conference that is a few hours away from home then to have the frustration of SL not working.
Many servers in schools or business have proxy servers and the issue with having to continuously update IP addresses to access SL would be aggravating and almost impossible for an online community that is growing at such a rapid pace.

]]> By: carla http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/09/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1042 carla Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:35:40 +0000 http://durandus.com/phaedrus/?p=277#comment-1042 Ok.. i left my comment on the other blog...duh! After reading the article, i still do not know how to answer the question. I am not a computer guru and i dont' understand the terminology. I can see where the actual working of a program can be a problem in a proxied network. Our school has been reimaging computers and it has been a nightmare. Just getting some programs to work can be an issue. Ok.. i left my comment on the other blog…duh! After reading the article, i still do not know how to answer the question. I am not a computer guru and i dont’ understand the terminology.

I can see where the actual working of a program can be a problem in a proxied network. Our school has been reimaging computers and it has been a nightmare. Just getting some programs to work can be an issue.

]]> By: gminks http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/09/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1041 gminks Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:21:13 +0000 http://durandus.com/phaedrus/?p=277#comment-1041 None taken --- looking forward to the discussion! None taken — looking forward to the discussion!

]]> By: lowell http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/09/whats-wrong-with-this-picture/#comment-1040 lowell Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:20:03 +0000 http://durandus.com/phaedrus/?p=277#comment-1040 Let me offer my sincere and public apology to gminks. It occurred to me that I was playing unfairly with this story by characterizing it as a kind of "what not to do" when I *really* wanted to make the point that this is a really common practice relative to educational activity in Second Life and why this practice is so problematic. I meant no disrespect to gminks or her efforts on behalf of her company. Let me offer my sincere and public apology to gminks. It occurred to me that I was playing unfairly with this story by characterizing it as a kind of “what not to do” when I *really* wanted to make the point that this is a really common practice relative to educational activity in Second Life and why this practice is so problematic.

I meant no disrespect to gminks or her efforts on behalf of her company.

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