Comments on: The Learner http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/10/the-learner-3/ Technology is neither the problem nor the solution. Sun, 05 Feb 2012 23:12:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kim Clevinger http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/10/the-learner-3/#comment-1203 Kim Clevinger Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:30:47 +0000 http://durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/10/11/the-learner-3/#comment-1203 In terms of online education, I think that "learners" can develop skills and take on roles. If we take on the role of learner, I think we simply do what is expected and no more--maybe less. We know what is expected and we make no attempt to develop the "skills" to learn at a higher level. If we actually develop learner skills, we actually use what we are learning at a high level and apply it even after the class is over. In terms of online education, I think that “learners” can develop skills and take on roles. If we take on the role of learner, I think we simply do what is expected and no more–maybe less. We know what is expected and we make no attempt to develop the “skills” to learn at a higher level. If we actually develop learner skills, we actually use what we are learning at a high level and apply it even after the class is over.

]]> By: Elizabeth Freeman http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/10/the-learner-3/#comment-1202 Elizabeth Freeman Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:49:09 +0000 http://durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/10/11/the-learner-3/#comment-1202 I agree that the learner must must identify the bridges that are useful to them. I think that this can be looked at in small pieces and big chunks. I teach first grade and some think that first graders have to know everything that the teachers chooses to teach them. Sure they learn how to read and learn how to add and subtract but there is more to it. I teach my students several ways to to do addition and subtraction. They choose which was or ways work for them. After I have taught them the different strategies for solving the problems they are free to decide what works best for them. As a teacher I cannot possibly look at my students and know how their brain works. They almost immediately know which way they will use when they see it. In online courses I take on the role of a student and I choose bridges I cross. I've had some classes that were so meaningless that I just stood in the middle of the bridge to get my A because I was gettting nothing out of the class. In some classes though I have crossed the bridge and continue to use the resources that I learned. I agree that the learner must must identify the bridges that are useful to them. I think that this can be looked at in small pieces and big chunks. I teach first grade and some think that first graders have to know everything that the teachers chooses to teach them. Sure they learn how to read and learn how to add and subtract but there is more to it. I teach my students several ways to to do addition and subtraction. They choose which was or ways work for them. After I have taught them the different strategies for solving the problems they are free to decide what works best for them. As a teacher I cannot possibly look at my students and know how their brain works. They almost immediately know which way they will use when they see it.
In online courses I take on the role of a student and I choose bridges I cross. I’ve had some classes that were so meaningless that I just stood in the middle of the bridge to get my A because I was gettting nothing out of the class. In some classes though I have crossed the bridge and continue to use the resources that I learned.

]]> By: lowell http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/10/the-learner-3/#comment-1201 lowell Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:07:27 +0000 http://durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/10/11/the-learner-3/#comment-1201 "[T]he complete picture of the learner’s own objectives in selecting his bridges may not completely be accomplished if he solely relies on online learning." Most certainly. But given that the learner is the one who makes the decision, there's no distance possible. And "online learning" IS an oxymoron, so relying on an inherent paradox as a strategy for acquiring knowledge would be counter indicated. “[T]he complete picture of the learner’s own objectives in selecting his bridges may not completely be accomplished if he solely relies on online learning.”

Most certainly. But given that the learner is the one who makes the decision, there’s no distance possible.

And “online learning” IS an oxymoron, so relying on an inherent paradox as a strategy for acquiring knowledge would be counter indicated.

]]> By: Tim Toews http://www.durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/10/the-learner-3/#comment-1200 Tim Toews Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:32:57 +0000 http://durandus.com/phaedrus/2008/10/11/the-learner-3/#comment-1200 It is hard to identify things that someone would need, if you are not in the same physical location. distance/online learning may accomplish a few objectives for the learning in aquiring skills, but the complete picture of the learner's own objectives in selecting his bridges may not completely be accomplished if he solely relies on online learning. It is hard to identify things that someone would need, if you are not in the same physical location. distance/online learning may accomplish a few objectives for the learning in aquiring skills, but the complete picture of the learner’s own objectives in selecting his bridges may not completely be accomplished if he solely relies on online learning.

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